Episode 23

But is it Actually as Good as Live Fire Training? (Ft. Mantis)

Published on: 9th July, 2025

In this episode of

State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Grant from Mantis,

the innovative minds behind some of the most advanced dry fire and

training tools in the firearm world.

From the Blackbeard AR trigger

reset system to the upcoming Titan X training pistol and augmented

reality environments, Mantis is pushing the boundaries of how we

train-and who can access that training.

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About the Podcast

State of the Second
The State of The Second, an interview style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism is having on the firearms industry, and the second amendment community.
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry.

Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."